Custom BIONICLE Wiki:Board Meeting/Archive/Move

Notice:The below log can be generated on any page by simply typing in . Log of BMSM (1:00:41)PM  K, I call this meeting to order (1:00:42)PM  Oolala (1:00:47)PM  !/talkback off (1:00:48)PM  Talkback Is now Disabled. (1:00:56)PM  Yeah meeting officially starts now (1:01:02)PM  Ok (1:01:04)PM  Racht's on Gmail (1:01:07)PM  Yeah! (1:01:07)PM  forget what I said in the BP forums (1:01:09)PM  Tapio's back (1:01:13)PM  I forgot it was CBW and BP together (1:01:16)PM  though it was just BP chat (1:01:20)PM  Yeah (again) (1:01:58)PM  Yay! Tapio is here! (1:02:03)PM  And Racht (1:02:06)PM  Hello everybody! (1:02:10)PM <TheOracle> ALrighty (1:02:11)PM <Panakalego> HEY! (1:02:12)PM <ToaAuserv> Hiya (1:02:15)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> I have no idea who Racht is sorry (1:02:15)PM <Kaper> Hi! (1:02:17)PM <Daiku> quite a crowd we got (1:02:20)PM <TheOracle> I think you all know what this meeting is about (1:02:21)PM <ToaAuserv> Racht is a Bpedia admin (1:02:22)PM <Toatapio> Nice to see ya. (1:02:23)PM <Panakalego> he's a Toa (1:02:26)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Ok (1:02:33)PM <Toatapio> Yes. (1:02:37)PM <TheOracle> So,we'll follow Daiku's plan (1:02:37)PM <Racht> No need to know who I am. I am just a helper of Bioniclepedia, that is all. (1:02:39)PM <Panakalego> lets stop talking and let Seth start (1:02:41)PM <TheOracle> with my amendment (1:02:52)PM <TheOracle> So, Auserv, you can start (1:03:02)PM <TheOracle> Wait (1:03:04)PM <TheOracle> My bad >.< (1:03:09)PM <TheOracle> Prelims vote (1:03:20)PM <TheOracle> All for this move off the Wikia platform? (1:03:27)PM <Panakalego> eye (1:03:31)PM <ToaAuserv> I'm for it (1:03:34)PM <Kaper> Me! (1:03:36)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> I agree with it (1:03:44)PM <Toatapio> Yes, allright. (1:03:49)PM <TheOracle> K, 4 yay (1:03:51)PM <TheOracle> Nay? (1:04:03)PM <TheOracle> (Against) (1:04:07)PM <ToaAuserv> 5 yay, actually (1:04:11)PM <TheOracle> K (1:04:15)PM <Daiku> I say nay (1:04:15)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Just about to say that (1:04:16)PM <TheOracle> 5 yay, nays please? (1:04:22)PM <TheOracle> 1 nay (1:04:29)PM <TheOracle> Others? (1:04:37)PM <Kaper> Not me (1:04:41)PM <Racht> Can I null? (1:04:41)PM <TheOracle> Ok, 5 yay 1 Nay (1:04:47)PM <TheOracle> ? (1:04:53)PM <TheOracle> Neutral Racht? (1:04:55)PM <Daiku> Three undecided? (1:05:00)PM <TheOracle> Delphi is a bot (1:05:02)PM <Racht> Yes, neutral. (1:05:04)PM <TheOracle> k (1:05:14)PM <TheOracle> 5 yay, 1 nay, 1 neut (1:05:14)PM <Daiku> So two undecided (1:05:37)PM <TheOracle> Who? (1:05:44)PM <TheOracle> wait (1:05:45)PM <Panakalego> one nay (1:05:45)PM <Panakalego> yeah (1:05:48)PM <TheOracle> 2 Nay, PF is against (1:05:56)PM <Kaper> WHAT! (1:06:00)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> ?? (1:06:02)PM <ToaAuserv> what about MG? (1:06:03)PM <Panakalego> OM was (1:06:09)PM <TheOracle> MG didn't want to vote (1:06:11)PM <Panakalego> what do you think? (1:06:12)PM <TheOracle> 3 Nay (1:06:19)PM <Kaper> NO! (1:06:20)PM <Daiku> Just the people in here (1:06:24)PM <TheOracle> yea (1:06:33)PM <TheOracle> and PF couldn't make it but wanted to vote (1:06:37)PM <TheOracle> same for OM (1:06:38)PM <Daiku> let's not count the general votes yet (1:06:40)PM <TheOracle> but MG didn't (1:06:43)PM <ToaAuserv> K (1:06:49)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> I agree with Daiku (1:06:50)PM <TheOracle> so prelims: 5 yay, 3 Nay (1:06:56)PM <TheOracle> Moving on (1:06:58)PM <Racht> Is it too late to vote anyway? I thought the plans are in gear now. (1:07:03)PM <ToaAuserv> No not yet (1:07:06)PM <Panakalego> not yet (1:07:14)PM <Panakalego> but their ready to begin (1:07:15)PM <Racht> So nothing has been bought yet? (1:07:25)PM <Panakalego> not quite (1:07:29)PM <TheOracle> Auserv, you may take the "podium" to present the majority opinion (1:07:30)PM <ToaAuserv> I guess not (1:07:30)PM <Kaper> ... (1:08:09)PM <TheOracle> ...Auserv? (1:08:17)PM <Panakalego> he's typing (1:08:19)PM <ToaAuserv> Alright, um... I didn't really know I was going to be taking the podium until a few minutes ago :P So am I just saying why we want the move? (1:08:21)PM <TheOracle> Oh, ic :P (1:08:29)PM <TheOracle> Yes (1:08:33)PM <ToaAuserv> Alright (1:08:34)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> May I ask a question? (1:08:43)PM <ToaAuserv> Yes (1:08:45)PM <TheOracle> Let TA talk first (1:08:48)PM <TheOracle> er nvm :P (1:08:54)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Do I have to say anything? (1:08:58)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Sorry (1:09:02)PM <ToaAuserv> I have to refer to my blog entry anyway XD (1:09:12)PM <Racht> I actually do not quite understand the plan. What is actually going to happen when we agree to move? What comes next? (1:09:16)PM <Toatapio> ... I'm... confused... (1:09:18)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> I don't knwo the plan all too wel (1:09:25)PM <TheOracle> Ok (1:09:28)PM <TheOracle> After we move (1:09:31)PM <Toatapio> The plan is to move... (1:09:33)PM <Panakalego> well, we move the content (1:09:34)PM <Toatapio> Right? (1:09:41)PM <TheOracle> We'll continue editing for a week or so as I setup the wikis (1:09:45)PM <TheOracle> Yes (1:10:04)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Don't we have to reregister too? (1:10:08)PM <Panakalego> then afterwards, Swert and I will turn the old B-pedia to a wiki about set info, and link to both wikis for stoyline (1:10:09)PM <ToaAuserv> Yeah (1:10:12)PM <TheOracle> Once the testing and such is done, I'll request the old wikia wikis be locked so we can get an accurate database dump (1:10:26)PM <TheOracle> Er, old wikia wiki (1:10:28)PM <Kaper> Dump? (1:10:32)PM <TheOracle> Forgot about swert :P (1:10:40)PM <TheOracle> Yea, the database dump (1:10:48)PM <Kaper> ... (1:10:51)PM <TheOracle> it allows for me to retrieve all the articles (1:10:57)PM <TheOracle> every page (1:11:00)PM <Kaper> oh... (1:11:01)PM <TheOracle> so I can import it (1:11:12)PM <Kaper> oh..(again) (1:11:16)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> I know Seth will get it to work (1:11:22)PM <TheOracle> then, the image dump, then we'll do a few more tests blah blah balh (1:11:24)PM <ToaAuserv> I'm ready to talk now whenever everyone's ready XD (1:11:29)PM <Panakalego> you're doing the same for B-pedai, right? (1:11:30)PM <TheOracle> then the wikis will be open (1:11:32)PM <TheOracle> Yes (1:11:37)PM <Kaper> I'm ready (1:11:44)PM <Panakalego> Auserv, skeak! (1:11:49)PM <Panakalego> speak, too (1:11:55)PM <TheOracle> Heh (1:11:55)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> lol (1:12:33)PM <ToaAuserv> Alright, the first and biggest reason that a lot of people are supporting the move is the whole Wikia Spotlight thing (1:12:46)PM <Toatapio> Right. (1:12:51)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Yah\ (1:12:59)PM <ToaAuserv> Some ads are not really good for 8-year-olds to be seeing, and some are downright obscene as noted in my blog entry (1:13:00)PM <Kaper> yeah (1:13:04)PM <Daiku> no comments now please - let him speak (1:13:07)PM <Toatapio> Those spotlights are just so wicked... (1:13:12)PM <Toatapio> Ok, sorry. (1:13:39)PM <ToaAuserv> Also, the staff of the new domain will have all the powers that on Wikia are only reserved for the highest (1:13:44)PM <ToaAuserv> IP checks and the like (1:14:16)PM <ToaAuserv> Aside from that, and Seth knows more about this than I do, we'll be getting some new features (1:14:32)PM <TheOracle> Wjich we will discuss later. (1:14:34)PM <TheOracle> Which* (1:14:42)PM <ToaAuserv> Such as an extension that tells other users when you're editing a page, for example (1:14:59)PM <ToaAuserv> And finally, it will improve relations between the CBW and Bpedia staff (1:15:21)PM <ToaAuserv> As some of the people who got here earlier saw, that's necessary - some of us don't even know some other's names :P (1:15:39)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> :/ (1:15:52)PM <Kaper> :/ (1:15:53)PM <ToaAuserv> That's about it for the reasons detailed in my blog entry... (1:16:03)PM <Toatapio> Am I supposed to say something now? (1:16:07)PM <TheOracle> Ok, and for the minority, Daiku (1:16:10)PM <ToaAuserv> Can't think of anything else to say really, so I guess I'm done (1:16:16)PM <TheOracle> You may take the invisible podium (1:16:27)PM <Kaper> Cool (1:16:28)PM <Daiku> do we want to have questions to Auserv first, or do all questions at the end? (1:16:35)PM <ToaAuserv> all questions at the end (1:16:35)PM <TheOracle> You wrote the plan (1:16:36)PM <TheOracle> yes (1:16:36)PM <ToaAuserv> I guess (1:16:49)PM <Daiku> I suppose I did (1:17:00)PM <Panakalego> he did? (1:17:06)PM <Daiku> Okay, these reasons are mostly why Bioniclepedia shouldn't move (1:17:06)PM <ToaAuserv> He did (1:17:08)PM <TheOracle> He wrote the meeting plan (1:17:09)PM <Daiku> the plan for the discussion (1:17:10)PM <Kaper> did what? (1:17:17)PM <Panakalego> hush (1:17:20)PM <Daiku> the order of events (1:17:21)PM <ToaAuserv> wrote the plan, now he's talking so quiet until he's done :P (1:17:23)PM <Kaper> ... (1:17:24)PM <Daiku> I can talk all I want (1:17:30)PM <Daiku> but anyways... (1:17:39)PM <Daiku> I can't really talk for CBW, since I don't know enough about their situation (1:17:48)PM <Daiku> and they're in a different situation than BP (1:18:06)PM <Daiku> but right now, Bioniclepedia's main source of new users is either cross-wiki or from google searchis (1:18:08)PM <Daiku> searches (1:18:21)PM <Daiku> bionicle.wikia.com comes up first on Bionicle Wiki searches (1:18:31)PM <Toatapio> Well, you'll get new members... (1:18:37)PM <Toatapio> Theough Bzpower. (1:18:38)PM <Daiku> let me talk (1:18:40)PM <TheOracle> Shush Please (1:18:41)PM <Toatapio> Through* (1:18:45)PM <Toatapio> Sorry. (1:18:54)PM <Daiku> we tried working with BZPower before (1:19:02)PM <Daiku> they're too demanding, and we weren't getting anything out of it (1:19:14)PM <Daiku> and we as a community decided we weren't going to bend over backwards to BZP (1:19:41)PM <Daiku> Now, we could still re-establish ourselves as an independent wiki (1:19:58)PM <Daiku> if we had a large enough group of dedicated users with enough time to put a lot of work into improving BP (1:20:08)PM <Daiku> unfortunately, our community right now is mostly a Wikia community (1:20:16)PM <Daiku> we don't get a lot of users really dedicated to staying (1:20:17)PM <Panakalego> is it? (1:20:28)PM <ToaAuserv> shh PL questions at the end (1:20:30)PM <Daiku> and some of us, like me, wouldn't have the time to do a lot of editing (1:21:00)PM <Daiku> Bioniclepedia cycles through users (1:21:16)PM <Daiku> except we get a few that stay (1:21:36)PM <Daiku> if we go to an independent server, when our current user base cycles out, we won't have any more cycling in (1:21:59)PM <Daiku> and I don't think our current admin staff is capable of keeping up (1:22:12)PM <Daiku> since, as I said before, most of us don't have the drive or the time (1:22:20)PM <Daiku> look at how many of us even showed up (1:23:08)PM <Daiku> mind blank... (1:23:11)PM <TheOracle> Ok (1:23:18)PM <Kaper> Cool (1:23:21)PM <TheOracle> I will now "read" something PF requested me to (1:23:29)PM <TheOracle> Seeing as he's not here (1:23:33)PM <TheOracle> "Fellow admins and friends at Custom Bionicle Wiki. I am sorry I could not make it. I am out of town. I know that you guys are voting as of moving out of wikia. My answer is nay (no), because I see no reasoother than the recent vandil (atukamadlib or something like thaat), but he hasn't bothered us, so I see no reason to move. Thank you." (1:23:42)PM <TheOracle> --Pirakafreak24 (1:24:07)PM <Daiku> Which brings me to my next subject: vandals (1:24:23)PM <Daiku> vandalism is something that's gonna plague any wiki, no matter where we draw our users from (1:24:34)PM <Daiku> it's one of the plagues of wiki (1:24:37)PM <Kaper> Which is sad.. (1:24:53)PM <Daiku> and it turns out that all of Bioniclepedia's recent vandal problems have all been from the one known as atukam (1:26:16)PM <Daiku> as I was saying... atukam (we will no longer capitalize his name) said he would follow us through the move (1:26:18)PM <Daiku> so moving won't help that (1:26:25)PM <Kaper> yay (1:26:35)PM <Daiku> eventually he'll just quit, just like all the others have (1:26:53)PM <Daiku> And now I come to the benefits of moving (1:26:56)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> hopefully (1:26:57)PM <Daiku> or rather, insufficiency thereof (1:27:11)PM <Daiku> we will gain some new features from moving (1:27:19)PM <Daiku> but a majority of them aren't really needed (1:27:35)PM <Daiku> especially when you consider how the Wikia staff has been so helpful in giving us stuff like blogs (1:27:37)PM <TheOracle> Daiku can you wrap it up?You're taking up an awful lot of time, no offense (1:27:49)PM <Daiku> the ads on the main page rarely even load for me (1:27:50)PM <Daiku> workin' on it (1:27:53)PM <TheOracle> k (1:28:16)PM <Daiku> and me and Oracle are working on a Wikia-wide protest against the new inappropriate Wikia Spotlights (1:28:28)PM <Kaper> That's good (1:28:51)PM <Daiku> So, in conclusion, none of the benefits we'll be getting will outweigh the fact that Bioniclepedia's member income will drop extraordinarily (1:29:08)PM <TheOracle> Alrighty... (1:29:09)PM <Daiku> and having a wiki with nice feaures isn't important if nobody visits it (1:29:20)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> true (1:29:21)PM <TheOracle> questions about the majority now...ToaAuserv will now take questions (1:29:24)PM <ToaAuserv> K so now we're moving on to the questions, right? (1:29:26)PM <Kaper> true2 (1:29:31)PM <ToaAuserv> Alright (1:29:34)PM <ToaAuserv> Fire away (1:29:49)PM <Daiku> and you may defer to someone else if you feel they can better answer it (1:29:55)PM <ToaAuserv> K (1:30:06)PM <Panakalego> like yours truly. :P (1:30:13)PM <ToaAuserv> Yup (1:30:13)PM <Daiku> What new features have you wanted to add in the past that you haven't been able to due to Wikia's staff restrictions? (1:30:23)PM <Panakalego> any (1:30:24)PM <TheOracle> CheckIP (1:30:26)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> What will we do when new users randomly start editing BPedia after we move and you turn it into a set wiki? (1:30:28)PM <TheOracle> Oversight (1:30:29)PM <TheOracle> IRC (1:30:32)PM <TheOracle> New Skins (1:30:42)PM <Panakalego> spam filter needs to go (1:30:42)PM <Kaper> ew... (1:30:48)PM <TheOracle> I requested IRc quite a while back (1:30:58)PM <TheOracle> Never got a response (1:31:06)PM <Panakalego> they have them (1:31:08)PM <ToaAuserv> Yeah, Swert once tried to see if he could get Bpedia to have custom skins, and it can't because of the whole Monaco thing (1:31:12)PM <TheOracle> JSharp said he was going to propose it to the board, but it never happened (1:31:35)PM <Daiku> what's oversight? (1:31:36)PM <ToaAuserv> @CL: That would be Swert's problem, not ours (1:31:45)PM <TheOracle> It deletes revisions Daiku (1:31:50)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Ok (1:32:09)PM <Daiku> what's the difference between IRC and what we're using now? (1:32:09)PM <Panakalego> it would mine and Swert's (1:32:18)PM <ToaAuserv> And Seth pretty much answered Daiku's question so no need to answer that :P (1:32:23)PM <TheOracle> The IRC would be built in as a special page Daiku (1:32:37)PM <ToaAuserv> Any other questions for the majority opinion? (1:32:43)PM <Kaper> no (1:32:45)PM <TheOracle> much easier to access than mibbit since its local (1:32:56)PM <Daiku> mibbit isn't hard to access (1:32:57)PM <Panakalego> and the old B-pedia will be linking to the new one all over the place, just FYI (1:33:00)PM <TheOracle> Minority Quetions now (1:33:04)PM <Panakalego> BS01 too (1:33:25)PM <TheOracle> Daiku, I don't see why you are so worried about the users (1:33:37)PM <TheOracle> If we link to the new site from the old, I'm sure they'll follow (1:33:53)PM <Kaper> That's a good idea (1:33:58)PM <TheOracle> especially if CBW's old site becomes a redirect to the new one, if Wikia will do that for me (1:33:58)PM <Daiku> bioniclereviews.wikia.com (1:34:01)PM <Daiku> anybody seen that? (1:34:16)PM <Panakalego> no.... (1:34:23)PM <Daiku> another Bionicle wikia wiki (1:34:28)PM <TheOracle> it redirects to bionicle.wikia.com Daiku (1:34:42)PM <TheOracle> Oh nevermind (1:34:59)PM <Daiku> right now it's mostly plajarism from BS01 (1:35:00)PM <ToaAuserv> At Daiku, atukam (I love how we're not capitalizing his name anymore XD) will probably follow us to the new wiki, but we'll be shielded from any cross-wiki vandals (1:35:03)PM <Kaper> Can we get back to the meeting? (1:35:14)PM <ToaAuserv> Not really a question but more of an opposing opinion (1:35:18)PM <Daiku> Bionicle Reviews is relevant (1:35:30)PM <Daiku> to answering Oracle's first question (1:35:30)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> ... (1:35:51)PM <Daiku> right now, Reviews is overwhelmed by us (1:36:14)PM <TheOracle> UPDATE ***YAY 5 NAY 3 @ BP*** (1:36:18)PM <Daiku> but if bionicle.wikia.com becomes a storyline, it's a very real possibility that Reviews gets all the Wikia users who want to storyline edit (1:37:19)PM <Alykpye> lolz (1:37:20)PM <TheOracle> CL, please don't (1:37:25)PM <Alykpye> sorry (1:37:33)PM <Daiku> but anyways, back to my answer (1:37:36)PM <TheOracle> CUT (1:37:44)PM <Racht> Wiki Magna (1:37:44)PM <TheOracle> Ok go on :) (1:37:51)PM <Racht> Another BIONICLE wiki. (1:37:58)PM <Daiku> also, people at bionicle.wikia.com will get to choose between BS01 and Bioniclepedia (1:38:03)PM <ToaAuserv> Yeah, they don't really figure into this equation though (1:38:17)PM <TheOracle> Wiki Magna isn't fully developed yet (1:38:19)PM <ToaAuserv> Yes they will, Daiku, good point, didn't think about that (1:38:19)PM <Daiku> why would they choose BP over BS01 (1:38:20)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Kaper? (1:38:33)PM <Daiku> especially if BS01's more organized and has a better reputation (1:38:51)PM <ToaAuserv> Basically though, we've had this problem from the beginning (1:38:55)PM <Panakalego> some like us more (1:39:00)PM <ToaAuserv> And obviously there are a handful of people who DID choose us over BS01 (1:39:00)PM <Panakalego> like MK (1:39:07)PM <Panakalego> I did (1:39:13)PM <ToaAuserv> So did I (1:39:15)PM <TheOracle> Same (1:39:20)PM <ToaAuserv> Actually, all of us here did, basically (1:39:27)PM <ToaAuserv> unless someone here has never been to BS01? (1:39:38)PM <Panakalego> plus (1:39:38)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> I like BP over BS01 (1:39:53)PM <Daiku> PF had never heard of BS01 (1:39:54)PM <Panakalego> no one can make accounts, or edit as IPs on BS01 anymore (1:39:58)PM <ToaAuserv> We're easier to get along with and we've achieved BS01's quality (nearly) with far fewer members (1:39:59)PM <Daiku> before we started talking about it (1:40:14)PM <ToaAuserv> PF is the exception to the rule (1:40:16)PM <Racht> PirakaFreak has an account on BS01. (1:40:22)PM <ToaAuserv> Now he does (1:40:26)PM <Daiku> yeah, he made it after we told hima bout BS01 (1:40:39)PM <Racht> Still, he is aware of it now. (1:40:40)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Whyd you tell him? (1:40:45)PM <Daiku> he asked (1:40:48)PM <ToaAuserv> Because it came up in conversation (1:40:48)PM <Daiku> we were talking about it (1:40:48)PM <Panakalego> he asked (1:40:55)PM <ToaAuserv> It's not like he prefers it to Bpedia (1:40:58)PM <TheOracle> Are there any more questions? (1:41:02)PM <ToaAuserv> I have an account there too (1:41:05)PM <ToaAuserv> but I never use it (1:41:05)PM <Racht> It would be hard to achieve their quality with few members. (1:41:06)PM <TheOracle> Same (1:41:14)PM <Racht> We cannot do it by ourselves. (1:41:16)PM <Panakalego> when are we moving? (1:41:25)PM <ToaAuserv> We've come pretty close so far though, Racht (1:41:26)PM <Panakalego> yes we can (1:41:28)PM <TheOracle> IF, Pl (1:41:36)PM <TheOracle> its not decided yet (1:41:49)PM <Panakalego> but it's winning (1:41:50)PM <Daiku> questions for minority view? (1:41:58)PM <TheOracle> No? (1:42:05)PM <TheOracle> Moving on then (1:42:11)PM <Racht> How close, though? (1:42:17)PM <Panakalego> very (1:42:23)PM <ToaAuserv> It's subjective (1:42:24)PM <Racht> It has only happened because of the copying. (1:42:28)PM <Racht> And then we just change the words. (1:42:29)PM <Panakalego> nope (1:42:36)PM <TheOracle> Alright, do we want to vote now? (1:42:36)PM <Panakalego> I never copy (1:42:38)PM <ToaAuserv> No, 99% of Bpedia's content is original (1:42:42)PM <ToaAuserv> I've written a great deal of it myself (1:42:48)PM <Panakalego> same here (1:42:51)PM <ToaAuserv> And BS01 has indeed copied from us before (1:42:52)PM <Daiku> Same with Legodude760 (1:42:59)PM <Daiku> I haven't edited as much, but mine's all original (1:43:00)PM <Racht> You can back that up? (1:43:08)PM <Panakalego> yes (1:43:10)PM <ToaAuserv> About BS01 copying us? (1:43:13)PM <ToaAuserv> Here, I'll find you that (1:43:13)PM <Racht> Oh, perhaps now it is original. (1:43:20)PM <Racht> What? (1:43:22)PM <Racht> No, not that. (1:43:26)PM <TheOracle> Uh, are we going to vote now guys? (1:43:28)PM <ToaAuserv> I wrote a summary for Downfall and they copied it (1:43:31)PM <Racht> Back up the original content comment. (1:43:46)PM <Toatapio> Voting now? Will we? (1:43:50)PM <ToaAuserv> I guess not Seth :P (1:44:01)PM <TheOracle> This isn't the deciding vote (1:44:09)PM <TheOracle> the community vote decides (1:44:16)PM <Toatapio> Oh... when will that be, then? (1:44:17)PM <ToaAuserv> Right, but it'll decide the outcome of the meeting (1:44:23)PM <Daiku> hang on (1:44:25)PM <TheOracle> GAH (1:44:26)PM <Daiku> Makao's on BP (1:44:30)PM <TheOracle> I'm confused (1:44:30)PM <Toatapio> ... (1:44:36)PM <Panakalego> get him in here (1:44:40)PM <Toatapio> Same here... (1:44:43)PM <ToaAuserv> Makao's missed the first half of the meeting though (1:44:50)PM <Daiku> true that (1:44:53)PM <Panakalego> he can still join (1:44:56)PM <ToaAuserv> and does he even really know anything about the move? (1:45:03)PM <Panakalego> not really (1:45:04)PM <Panakalego> no (1:45:10)PM <Daiku> oh (1:45:18)PM <Daiku> somebody who's been in the whole time want to save the conversation? (1:45:24)PM <ToaAuserv> I will (1:45:31)PM <ToaAuserv> I was the first one in the room actually (1:45:31)PM <TheOracle> I am :/ (1:45:35)PM <TheOracle> I was (1:45:38)PM <Panakalego> Auserv the test-saver (1:45:56)PM <ToaAuserv> How do I save it anyway? (1:46:06)PM <Daiku> Select it, copy it, paste it into a word doc? (1:46:23)PM <ToaAuserv> It doesn't go back all the way to the beginning of the chat for some reason (1:46:26)PM <TheOracle> You have to cut some things out thouhg (1:46:30)PM <TheOracle> though* (1:46:32)PM <TheOracle> mine does (1:46:50)PM <ToaAuserv> I guess you'll have to do it then (1:47:01)PM <ToaAuserv> Mine only goes back about 20 minutes (1:47:09)PM <TheOracle> gah toothache (1:47:13)PM <ToaAuserv> And with each new message, an old one disappears (1:47:20)PM <Panakalego> hm (1:47:21)PM <Daiku> oops (1:47:21)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38>    True (1:47:35)PM <TheOracle> ok, are we going to vote or what? (1:47:44)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Didn't we? (1:47:45)PM <Panakalego> aye (1:47:54)PM <Daiku> Nay (1:47:54)PM <TheOracle> that was prelims I thought (1:47:57)PM <ToaAuserv> yay (1:47:57)PM <Panakalego> but lets do it again (1:48:04)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> k (1:48:05)PM <ToaAuserv> yeah, see if anyone's changed their mind (1:48:08)PM <TheOracle> yea, because we had to hear the agrs and stuff (1:48:10)PM <ToaAuserv> my mind hasn't changed (1:48:15)PM <TheOracle> Ok, all yay? (1:48:22)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> yay (1:48:25)PM <ToaAuserv> yay (1:48:25)PM <Panakalego> one nay (1:48:31)PM <Panakalego> yay (1:48:33)PM <ToaAuserv> two, PF (1:48:46)PM <Panakalego> PF ain't here (1:48:48)PM <TheOracle> 2 nay, 4 yay (1:48:55)PM <TheOracle> but he still was going to vote PL (1:49:01)PM <TheOracle> Racht? (1:49:02)PM <ToaAuserv> But PL, he requested for his vote to be counted because he was out of town (1:49:07)PM <TheOracle> ^ (1:49:12)PM <ToaAuserv> Racht, have you decided? (1:49:36)PM <Panakalego> might as well vote, bro (1:49:38)PM <TheOracle> Tapio? (1:49:41)PM <Racht> No, I have not. I have not really heard arguments from both sides. (1:49:50)PM <Panakalego> read blogs (1:49:51)PM <ToaAuserv> Racht, have you read my blog entry about the subject? (1:50:02)PM <Daiku> or mine, or PL's? (1:50:03)PM <ToaAuserv> http://bionicle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:ToaAuserv/Leaving_Wikia (1:50:05)PM <ToaAuserv> There's a link (1:50:07)PM <TheOracle> Tapio yay or nay? (1:50:08)PM <Racht> No I have not. If you can provide the link to the specific entry... (1:50:09)PM <Racht> Thanks. (1:50:12)PM <ToaAuserv> My entry links to Daiku's and PL's (1:50:20)PM <ToaAuserv> So just skim them all quickly (1:50:21)PM <Racht> Alright. (1:50:46)PM <Panakalego> I didn't write mine too well, just sorta threw it together (1:50:49)PM <Daiku> and when we're done the joint meeting, I've got an issue to bring up for the BP crew (1:50:53)PM <TheOracle> 2 nay, 4 yay, 2 undecided (1:50:56)PM <Panakalego> ok (1:51:13)PM <ToaAuserv> the undecided will probably be decided soon enough, so that's not the final vote, right? (1:51:21)PM <Daiku> hey, it's MK! (1:51:22)PM <TheOracle> Yea (1:51:22)PM <Panakalego> you can bring it up on gmail right now, Daiku (1:51:26)PM <Masketh> Wow, there's a lot of people here. (1:51:27)PM <Panakalego> MK! (1:51:30)PM <ToaAuserv> Hey, Masketh, you missed the first half of the meeting (1:51:39)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> First Half? (1:51:42)PM <TheOracle> yay or nay Masketh? (1:51:43)PM <ToaAuserv> We're voting for the move right now, yay or nay? (1:51:46)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> It's only half over? (1:51:47)PM <Racht> Nay. I do not want to risk. (1:51:48)PM <Masketh> Yay (1:51:49)PM <Panakalego> yay (1:51:57)PM <Panakalego> riskt what? (1:52:01)PM <ToaAuserv> Alright, so 3 nay, 5 yay, 1 undecided (1:52:06)PM <TheOracle> 3 nay, 5 yay, 1 undecided (1:52:09)PM <TheOracle> >:/ (1:52:14)PM <TheOracle> TA beat me (1:52:14)PM <Panakalego> aha (1:52:21)PM <Masketh> Who's undicided? (1:52:24)PM <TheOracle> Tapio (1:52:31)PM <Masketh> I see (1:52:37)PM <ToaAuserv> Tapio hasn't said anything like the whole meeting (1:52:40)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> You there, Tapio? (1:52:41)PM <TheOracle> Yea (1:52:44)PM <Masketh> XD (1:52:47)PM <Daiku> what changed your mind, Masketh? (1:52:54)PM <Masketh> I don't know. (1:53:00)PM <Masketh> Akutambitl perhaps (1:53:12)PM <Masketh> IP check could hopefully block him for good. (1:53:13)PM <Panakalego> MK! (1:53:17)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> What about Kaper? Have we forgotten him? (1:53:17)PM <Masketh> Plus the adds (1:53:21)PM <Racht> Wikia already established Bioniclepedia. If we move, then it will be hard to let the community know that we have moved. Most likely, they will not follow us out. (1:53:24)PM <TheOracle> Oh, kaper... (1:53:26)PM <TheOracle> he was yay (1:53:26)PM <ToaAuserv> Well, Kaper disappeared (1:53:32)PM <Panakalego> they will (1:53:35)PM <Daiku> Atukam's using an IP scrambler (1:53:36)PM <ToaAuserv> So 3 nay, 6 yay, 1 undecided (1:53:38)PM <Panakalego> we will link Racht (1:53:39)PM <TheOracle> so 3 nay, 6 yay, 1 undecided (1:53:40)PM <TheOracle> GAH (1:53:44)PM <ToaAuserv> Hah (1:53:51)PM <Panakalego> xD (1:53:55)PM <Panakalego> you're funny (1:53:56)PM <Daiku> Atukam's IP had already been blocked (1:54:01)PM <Panakalego> nope (1:54:03)PM <Masketh> BTW, what's the deal with Swert you were talking about earlier? (1:54:12)PM <Daiku> but there are ways of getting a random IP each time you get on (1:54:17)PM <ToaAuserv> He's going to take over the old Bpedia and turn it into a set wiki (1:54:21)PM <Panakalego> it's been blocked twelve time, Daiku (1:54:22)PM <Masketh> Ah. (1:54:22)PM <Racht> Link for how long? Whoever takes over the BIONICLE Wikia might remove the link, should Wikia decide to give it to someone else. (1:54:24)PM <ToaAuserv> and link to the new one (1:54:33)PM <TheOracle> TA, what did Tapio vote earlier? (1:54:38)PM <Toatapio> Yay. (1:54:38)PM <TheOracle> Yay I think? (1:54:43)PM <TheOracle> ah there you are (1:54:44)PM <Toatapio> That was my vote. (1:54:46)PM <ToaAuserv> Racht, Swert is going to take over the Bionicle Wikia (1:54:52)PM <TheOracle> 3 nay, 7 yay, (1:54:53)PM <Panakalego> and me (1:54:54)PM <Daiku> not anymore (1:54:59)PM <Daiku> according to MG (1:54:59)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Is it too late to ask a question? (1:55:00)PM <Panakalego> Swert and I will be partners (1:55:03)PM <ToaAuserv> And he'll be linking to us extensively from there (1:55:07)PM <ToaAuserv> No it isn't CL (1:55:09)PM <Masketh> I see. (1:55:18)PM <TheOracle> Ok, vote is final, for the meeting: (1:55:21)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Ok, what are the new adresses going to be? (1:55:28)PM <TheOracle> 7 yay; 3 nay (1:55:29)PM <ToaAuserv> We're deciding that later in the meeting (1:55:30)PM <Masketh> That's a good question. (1:55:34)PM <TheOracle> Yes (1:55:35)PM <Toatapio> Yeah, how can we find the new wikias? (1:55:38)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Thank you (1:55:42)PM <TheOracle> we'll now discuss the domain/address (1:55:49)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> TAPIO YOURE ALIVE (1:56:01)PM <ToaAuserv> Seth, next on the plan was extensions, I thought (1:56:04)PM <TheOracle> We were originally going to use biowikis.com (1:56:06)PM <Toatapio> Yes, I am... barely escaped that Dragon... (1:56:11)PM <TheOracle> I forgot address TA (1:56:14)PM <TheOracle> ORDER PLEASE (1:56:16)PM <Panakalego> hush (1:56:26)PM <Masketh> How about BPedia.com? (1:56:27)PM <Panakalego> let Seth speak (1:56:30)PM <TheOracle> So, biowikis.com was taken (1:56:31)PM <Racht> LEGO will ask you to remove "bionicle" from the address if we do decided to have it. (1:56:39)PM <TheOracle> Order in the,er... (1:56:40)PM <ToaAuserv> Yeah, we're aware (1:56:41)PM <Panakalego> we know (1:56:41)PM <TheOracle> room (1:56:49)PM <Panakalego> no one talk (1:56:54)PM <Panakalego> except Seth (1:56:59)PM <TheOracle> so, biowikis.com was taken (1:57:08)PM <TheOracle> me, TA, and PL were discussing it earlier last night (1:57:22)PM <TheOracle> and we thought of uddwikis.com for Unity Duty Destiny Wikis (1:57:41)PM <TheOracle> cbw would be cbw.uddwikis.com and bp would be bp.uddwikis.com (1:58:02)PM <TheOracle> If anyone has any other global sitename/domain, you may speak it now. (1:58:26)PM <TheOracle> Anyone? (1:58:29)PM <TheOracle> No ideas? (1:58:31)PM <Masketh> Nope (1:58:32)PM <Daiku> no ideas (1:58:34)PM <Toatapio> Nope. (1:58:38)PM <ToaAuserv> I like uddwikis (1:58:39)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Nope, I like those (1:58:45)PM <Daiku> I don't really like uddwikis (1:58:45)PM <TheOracle> Ok, yay for uddwikis.com/Unity Duty Destiny Wikis? (1:58:51)PM <TheOracle> Daiku, ideas then (1:58:58)PM <Daiku> I don't have any at the moment (1:59:00)PM <Daiku> haven't thought yet (1:59:06)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> yay (1:59:08)PM <Daiku> but I'd think we could come up with a better acrostic thatn udd (1:59:14)PM <ToaAuserv> yay for me (1:59:22)PM <TheOracle> 2 y 1 n (1:59:22)PM <Racht> bioniclepedia.com? (1:59:24)PM <ToaAuserv> It's harder than you think to find one that isn't taken, Daiku (1:59:28)PM <Racht> Is that already taken? (1:59:31)PM <TheOracle> Racht, it has to cover bp and cbw (1:59:32)PM <ToaAuserv> Racht, it contains Bionicle (1:59:35)PM <TheOracle> ^ (1:59:38)PM <ToaAuserv> So we didn't consider it (1:59:39)PM <Racht> I meant bpedia (1:59:39)PM <Racht> Soryr (1:59:43)PM <Racht> *Sorry. (1:59:59)PM <Masketh> I've got to go. (2:00:01)PM <Masketh> Bye. (2:00:03)PM <Racht> bpedia.com is what I meant. (2:00:04)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> bye (2:00:04)PM <TheOracle> Ok,bte (2:00:12)PM <ToaAuserv> Ah (2:00:15)PM <TheOracle> Racht, the name has to cover cbw and bp (2:00:19)PM <ToaAuserv> well, bpedia.com is probably taken (2:00:23)PM <ToaAuserv> and yeah, what Seth said (2:00:37)PM <Racht> uddwiki.com is what you came up with? (2:00:45)PM <ToaAuserv> uddwikis, plural (2:00:46)PM <TheOracle> uddwikis.com (2:00:48)PM <TheOracle> ^^ (2:01:25)PM <TheOracle> No ideas then? (2:01:35)PM <Daiku> not yet (2:01:42)PM <Daiku> but I'll let you know if I come up with anything (2:01:50)PM <TheOracle> k (2:01:52)PM <TheOracle> temp: (2:01:54)PM <TheOracle> yay for uddwikis.com/Unity Duty Destiny Wikis? (2:02:10)PM <ToaAuserv> yay (2:02:17)PM <TheOracle> 1 y 0 n (2:02:21)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> yay (2:02:24)PM <TheOracle> 2 y 0 n (2:02:32)PM <TheOracle> er, 3 y 0 n (2:02:36)PM <TheOracle> counting me (2:02:38)PM <Racht> I will give you my honest opinion. That is not a good url because it lacks uniqueness in the way that udd can refer to a lot of stuff. Maybe a url that contains is more BIONICLE-like. Something to do more with BIONICLE. (2:02:42)PM <Toatapio> y. (2:02:57)PM <Toatapio> I agree with Racht, actually.... (2:02:59)PM <TheOracle> Well, think of something Racht/Daiku (2:03:00)PM <ToaAuserv> So, nay, Racht? (2:03:06)PM <Daiku> nay (2:03:15)PM <TheOracle> 2 y 3 n (2:03:23)PM <ToaAuserv> We'll consider alternate titles later (2:03:27)PM <ToaAuserv> for now we're voting on uddwikis (2:03:27)PM <Panakalego> yay (2:03:29)PM <Racht> Some people will overlook the url as some other wiki, not pertaining to Bioniclepedia/Custom BIONICLE Wiki. (2:03:35)PM <TheOracle> Lets just move of for time's sake (2:03:43)PM <TheOracle> on* (2:03:53)PM <TheOracle> We'll vote after the community votes, so they can vote too (2:03:57)PM <TheOracle> if they say yay (2:04:03)PM <ToaAuserv> alright (2:04:06)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> if they say nay? (2:04:07)PM <Panakalego> they should (2:04:11)PM <Panakalego> but yeah (2:04:12)PM <TheOracle> If they say nay (2:04:15)PM <TheOracle> we won't move (2:04:18)PM <ToaAuserv> they should say yay, though (2:04:23)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> i mean on name (2:04:30)PM <Daiku> we don't need a vote on the name (2:04:31)PM <ToaAuserv> Oh, then we'll find another (2:04:38)PM <Racht> More ideas. We cannot limit ourselves to one idea. (2:04:38)PM <TheOracle> Well, there'll be like different choices CL (2:04:41)PM <ToaAuserv> I want the name to be decided here, really (2:04:49)PM <Racht> www.biowiki.com (2:04:56)PM <Racht> www.biowikis.com (2:04:57)PM <ToaAuserv> Wasn't that taken? (2:05:04)PM <TheOracle> both are taken (2:05:05)PM <ToaAuserv> biowikis was taken, originally we were going to do that (2:05:06)PM <Daiku> wikimetru, having Wiki Metru cover both our wikis? (2:05:10)PM <Racht> I do not know, I am just throwing out ideas. (2:05:17)PM <TheOracle> wikimetru sounds nice (2:05:20)PM <TheOracle> lemme WHOIS (2:05:43)PM <ToaAuserv> I like wikimetru too, but BS01 might be apprehensive to it, since they already have Wiki-Nui as a nickname for BS01 (2:05:46)PM <TheOracle> wikimetru.com is available (2:05:54)PM <ToaAuserv> Bpedia actually used to be called Wiki-Metru (2:05:56)PM <Toatapio> Wikimetru isn't bad. (2:06:01)PM <ToaAuserv> Back when LegoLover was running it (2:06:05)PM <TheOracle> All yay for wikimetru.com? (2:06:10)PM <Daiku> yay (2:06:11)PM <ToaAuserv> yay I guess (2:06:17)PM <TheOracle> 3 y 0 n (2:06:20)PM <TheOracle> counting me (2:06:22)PM <Panakalego> yay (2:06:23)PM <Racht> Hold up, more ideas. We are moving too fast. (2:06:25)PM <TheOracle> 4 y 0 n (2:06:27)PM <Panakalego> no! (2:06:35)PM <Panakalego> sorry (2:06:41)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> yay (2:06:42)PM <Racht> ? (2:06:44)PM <ToaAuserv> Racht, we're voting on each idea, and if enough people say nay, we'll try other ideas (2:06:46)PM <TheOracle> 5 y 0 n (2:07:01)PM <TheOracle> majority Rule (2:07:04)PM <TheOracle> guys (2:07:06)PM <TheOracle> Racht? (2:07:14)PM <TheOracle> y/n? (2:07:23)PM <Racht> Don't you want to give us choices to vote on instead of voting one at a time? (2:07:33)PM <ToaAuserv> It would be hard to do (2:07:35)PM <TheOracle> Nobody has any other ideas (2:07:42)PM <ToaAuserv> exactly (2:07:51)PM <TheOracle> and we have more topics to cover (2:07:52)PM <Daiku> thinking... (2:07:54)PM <TheOracle> 3 to be exact (2:08:00)PM <TheOracle> we need to move on (2:08:02)PM <Racht> That is because we were not aware that we were going to be discussing this today. (2:08:04)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> what about unitydutydestiny.com? or is that too long? (2:08:06)PM <Daiku> what's a Bionicle storyline location where they store information? (2:08:17)PM <TheOracle> onu-nui? (2:08:21)PM <ToaAuserv> Archives (2:08:24)PM <TheOracle> onu-metru* (2:08:29)PM <ToaAuserv> but I like wikimetru (2:08:29)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> colisseum? (2:08:30)PM <Racht> bioarchives.com (2:08:37)PM <Daiku> I like bioarchives.com (2:08:44)PM <ToaAuserv> that's probably taken, it sounds pretty vague... (2:08:51)PM <TheOracle> its taken (2:08:57)PM <Daiku> bummer (2:08:59)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> oh (2:09:00)PM <TheOracle> "Cybernym,LLC" (2:09:24)PM <TheOracle> onu-metru.com? (2:09:32)PM <Racht> www.biovault.com (2:09:38)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> I Wiki-Metru (2:09:45)PM <Racht> www.biowallofstars.com (2:09:51)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> iI like Wiki-Metru (2:09:53)PM <ToaAuserv> don't like onu-metru really, doesn't seem to represent all of Bionicle very well (2:09:56)PM <Racht> www.biowallofhistory.com (2:10:01)PM <ToaAuserv> I'm still for Wiki-Metru at the moment (2:10:06)PM <Daiku> we want something concise (2:10:11)PM <TheOracle> "the domain name you have requested is registered with Network Solutions." (2:10:15)PM <Daiku> I think wikimetru.com is gonna be the best (2:10:18)PM <TheOracle> biovault is taken (2:10:22)PM <TheOracle> ok (2:10:25)PM <TheOracle> back to wikimetru (2:10:26)PM <TheOracle> yay? (2:10:29)PM <Racht> www.biomuseum.com (2:10:32)PM <Racht> www.bioathenaeum.com (2:10:33)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> yay hooray woohoo (2:10:39)PM <Daiku> anthenauem? (2:10:39)PM <TheOracle> 2 y 0 n (2:10:53)PM <ToaAuserv> anthenauem? what's that? (2:11:00)PM <Racht> Another name for Archives. (2:11:01)PM <Daiku> I have a feeling it's a synonym (2:11:03)PM <Panakalego> how about we try boipedia.com again? It include both wikis (2:11:14)PM <Daiku> boipedia or biopedia? (2:11:15)PM <ToaAuserv> Well, not really (2:11:20)PM <Racht> www.biovaults.com <-- I would not mind this. (2:11:22)PM <TheOracle> biopedia.com TAKEN (2:11:30)PM <TheOracle> biovaults TAKEN (2:11:42)PM <ToaAuserv> let's just go with wikimetru then? (2:11:49)PM <Racht> Sure. (2:11:53)PM <Daiku> everything better's taken (2:11:54)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Yay (2:11:55)PM <TheOracle> yay? (2:11:59)PM <TheOracle> 2 y 0 n (2:11:59)PM <ToaAuserv> yay (2:12:03)PM <TheOracle> 3 y 0 n (2:12:06)PM <Panakalego> yay (2:12:11)PM <TheOracle> 4 y 0 n (2:12:23)PM <Daiku> woot! (2:12:27)PM <TheOracle> 5 y 0 n (2:12:38)PM <ToaAuserv> Who has yet to vote? (2:12:43)PM <TheOracle> Tapio & racht (2:12:45)PM <Racht> Yes, If I did not vote. (2:12:53)PM <ToaAuserv> So just tapio (2:12:53)PM <TheOracle> 6 y 0 n (2:13:08)PM <ToaAuserv> Well, no matter what Tapio says, the majority will still be with wikimetru (2:13:11)PM <TheOracle> Ok, we really need to move on (2:13:15)PM <TheOracle> motion carried (2:13:17)PM <ToaAuserv> Exactly (2:13:18)PM <TheOracle> Extensions (2:13:22)PM <TheOracle> 1. IRC (2:13:25)PM <TheOracle> yay/nay? (2:13:29)PM <TheOracle> 1 y 0 n (2:13:30)PM <ToaAuserv> yay (2:13:30)PM <Panakalego> yay (2:13:32)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Yay (2:13:36)PM <TheOracle> 4 y 0 n (2:13:45)PM <Daiku> yay - why would we not want it? (2:13:49)PM <TheOracle> 5 y 0 n (2:14:01)PM <ToaAuserv> we're just yay/naying for the record, lol (2:14:13)PM <TheOracle> racht? (2:14:15)PM <Daiku> although to be honest, this is kinda like picking the paint color before we've decided to sell the house (2:14:27)PM <TheOracle> daiku, its prelim voting (2:14:29)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> true (2:14:29)PM <TheOracle> racht (2:14:33)PM <ToaAuserv> kinda, but the majority did vote yay in this chat, and it's looking that way with Bpedia too (2:14:36)PM <Racht> Hold on, reading. (2:14:47)PM <Racht> Yes, have it. (2:14:51)PM <Daiku> we should really only be deciding the stuff we need before the move right now (2:14:52)PM <TheOracle> motion carried (2:14:53)PM <Racht> If this is the way to communicate, yes. (2:15:10)PM <TheOracle> 2. IM Status (2:15:10)PM <ToaAuserv> Alright, so IRC is 6 y 0 n (2:15:18)PM <Racht> What? (2:15:19)PM <ToaAuserv> which is? (2:15:19)PM <Daiku> define (2:15:22)PM <TheOracle> this allows to show google talk status (2:15:30)PM <Daiku> nay (2:15:34)PM <Daiku> not if we're gonna have an IRC (2:15:38)PM <Racht> Nay. (2:15:39)PM <TheOracle> an example is at http://theoracle.uuuq.com/wiki/index.php/User:Sysop (2:15:43)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> i agree with daiku (2:15:45)PM <Racht> I want privacy. (2:15:47)PM <TheOracle> its the balloon (2:15:48)PM <ToaAuserv> nay, doesn't seem necessary to me (2:15:54)PM <Panakalego> yay (2:15:55)PM <Panakalego> it (2:15:58)PM <ToaAuserv> it's cool though lol (2:16:00)PM <Panakalego> s useful (2:16:05)PM <TheOracle> 2 y 3 n (2:16:16)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> brb (2:16:20)PM <ToaAuserv> kk (2:16:21)PM <Panakalego> it tells me whoonline (2:16:21)PM <TheOracle> 2 y 4 n (2:16:24)PM <Toatapio> Yay from me. (2:16:29)PM <TheOracle> 3 y 4 n (2:16:33)PM <TheOracle> motion dropped (2:16:34)PM <ToaAuserv> But PL, you could find out by signing on to Gtalk (2:16:48)PM <TheOracle> 3. WhosOnline (2:16:50)PM <TheOracle> Define: (2:16:51)PM <ToaAuserv> yay (2:16:56)PM <TheOracle> Shows users online on the wiki (2:17:00)PM <Daiku> yea (2:17:00)PM <TheOracle> WAIT TA GAWD (2:17:05)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> back (2:17:09)PM <Toatapio> Look, I have to go now. Is there anything you would like my opinion for? (2:17:15)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> yay (2:17:15)PM <Racht> I want privacy. So no. (2:17:21)PM <TheOracle> ex: http://theoracle.uuuq.com/wiki/index.php/Special:WhosOnline (2:17:22)PM <ToaAuserv> XD I already knew what it was and wanted it ever since Wikia had it briefly (2:17:31)PM <Panakalego> yay (2:17:33)PM <TheOracle> k (2:17:37)PM <TheOracle> hold (2:17:44)PM <Racht> Well, wait, is this for sysop or for everyone? (2:17:47)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> like BZP (2:17:49)PM <TheOracle> 4 y 1 n (2:17:49)PM <ToaAuserv> would there be a way to make it so you could choose not to appear on WhosOnline? (2:17:56)PM <Toatapio> Leaving... See you later! (2:17:58)PM <TheOracle> Bye (2:18:02)PM <ToaAuserv> Bye Tapio (2:18:03)PM <TheOracle> I'm not sure TA (2:18:25)PM <Daiku> A toggle would be nice, but not neccessary, IMO (2:18:32)PM <ToaAuserv> Yeah (2:18:36)PM <TheOracle> so yay TA? (2:18:40)PM <ToaAuserv> My vote is still yay (2:18:49)PM <TheOracle> 5 y 1 n (2:18:54)PM <TheOracle> motion carried (2:19:05)PM <ToaAuserv> Next? (2:19:09)PM <TheOracle> hold (2:19:16)PM <TheOracle> Ok (2:19:18)PM <TheOracle> Meta-wiki (2:19:22)PM <TheOracle> let me define (2:19:51)PM <TheOracle> A meta wiki is a wiki about wikis (2:19:59)PM <TheOracle> so it'd be like CBW and BP's central (2:20:11)PM <ToaAuserv> So basically it would have help topics and such? (2:20:13)PM <TheOracle> yes (2:20:15)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> yay (2:20:19)PM <ToaAuserv> yay, then (2:20:19)PM <TheOracle> 2 y 0 n (2:20:21)PM <ToaAuserv> I could use such a thing (2:20:21)PM <Daiku> yay (2:20:22)PM <TheOracle> 3 y 0n (2:20:26)PM <TheOracle> 4 y 0 n (2:20:31)PM <TheOracle> racht? (2:20:31)PM <Panakalego> yay (2:20:35)PM <TheOracle> 5 y 0 n (2:20:37)PM <Panakalego> yay (2:20:40)PM <Panakalego> oops (2:20:44)PM <TheOracle> :P (2:21:05)PM <Racht> I still do not understand what it is. (2:21:12)PM <Daiku> Wikia Central (2:21:14)PM <TheOracle> its like Wikia Central (2:21:15)PM <Racht> Oh. (2:21:17)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> a plave where u can check on both wikis (2:21:24)PM <Racht> Right, right, understood. (2:21:27)PM <TheOracle> yay? (2:21:30)PM <Racht> It would be a central hub then. (2:21:33)PM <TheOracle> yes (2:21:33)PM <Racht> Sure, yes. (2:21:38)PM <TheOracle> motion carried (2:21:40)PM <TheOracle> 6 y (2:21:45)PM <Daiku> unanimously! (2:21:47)PM <TheOracle> :O (2:21:53)PM <TheOracle> Ok, the third staffer... (2:21:56)PM <ToaAuserv> Nice, first time we've all agreed on something XD (2:22:03)PM <ToaAuserv> I don't know exactly what you mean by that (2:22:07)PM <Daiku> hold for Oracle (2:22:12)PM <Racht> What Software are we using. (2:22:12)PM <TheOracle> I was thinking it seems unfair that I am automatically a staff (2:22:16)PM <TheOracle> MediaWiki (2:22:20)PM <TheOracle> same as Wikia (2:22:40)PM <Racht> There are other popular ones out there. (2:22:42)PM <TheOracle> so I wondered if you guys would like to vote for a third staff member? (2:22:48)PM <TheOracle> MediaWiki is best (2:22:50)PM <TheOracle> period (2:23:03)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> third staff member? (2:23:04)PM <ToaAuserv> And besides that, Mediawiki is the one everyone's familiar with (2:23:05)PM <Racht> Might want to branch out instead of using MediaWiki. Might have the edge on competitions. Just an idea. (2:23:16)PM <TheOracle> I don't think if we export we'll get our articles into a different wiki type Racht (2:23:19)PM <Racht> Who's the first and second? (2:23:24)PM <TheOracle> Me and PL (2:23:25)PM <ToaAuserv> PL and Seth (2:23:36)PM <TheOracle> PL is one because he's BP's SL (2:23:45)PM <Panakalego> Turaga (2:23:47)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> and Seth/ (2:23:47)PM <Racht> Right. (2:23:54)PM <Daiku> And what advantages to Staff have over admins? (2:24:00)PM <TheOracle> Locking/unlocking the db (2:24:00)PM <Daiku> is it alike to here at Wikia? (2:24:03)PM <TheOracle> yes (2:24:05)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> like me and piraka and hodoka (2:24:07)PM <TheOracle> well, kind of (2:24:18)PM <TheOracle> I'm not sure what other abilities staff have at wikia (2:24:32)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> so you're going to be the super admin? (2:24:37)PM <TheOracle> No. (2:24:40)PM <ToaAuserv> One of them (2:24:43)PM <TheOracle> Thing of me as the head servant. (2:24:47)PM <TheOracle> Think* (2:24:57)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> 2 super admins then regular admins then regular users? (2:24:59)PM <TheOracle> I'm a servant to the community, not its leader (2:25:08)PM <TheOracle> Yes, I guess CL (2:25:12)PM <Racht> Is there A leader? (2:25:13)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> Ok (2:25:19)PM <ToaAuserv> No, no single leader, Racht (2:25:22)PM <Daiku> Each site has its own leader (2:25:23)PM <TheOracle> I'd rather think of staff as servants to their community though (2:25:27)PM <ToaAuserv> PL will be the leader of the Bpedia section (2:25:32)PM <ToaAuserv> And Seth the leader of the CBW section (2:25:36)PM <Panakalego> nope (2:25:36)PM <ToaAuserv> sorta (2:25:46)PM <TheOracle> No,no,no. (2:25:50)PM <Daiku> no, no, no? (2:25:50)PM <Panakalego> Seth isn't the leader (2:25:51)PM <TheOracle> I am not the leader of anything (2:26:01)PM <TheOracle> PL can be the leader of BP (2:26:31)PM <Daiku> only without Wikia staff over us (2:26:33)PM <Racht> No one thinks there should be a leader of authority? (2:26:40)PM <TheOracle> We're a team (2:26:43)PM <TheOracle> I have to go (2:26:46)PM <ToaAuserv> It'll run better as a team (2:26:49)PM <Crazy-Lihkan38> He meant power not authority (2:26:53)PM <ToaAuserv> Okay, who's going to take over the meeting? (2:26:57)PM <ToaAuserv> If Seth is leaving (2:26:57)PM <TheOracle> PL (2:27:01)PM <TheOracle> g2g (2:27:02)PM <ToaAuserv> Kk (2:27:03)PM <TheOracle> bye
 * LOG ENDS HERE***

== Motions Passed ==
 * The Move (prelim)
 * Domain&mdash;wikimetru.com
 * Extension:IRC
 * Extension:WhosOnline
 * Meta-wiki

Motions Dropped

 * Extension:IM Status

Absent

 * &mdash;Referred as "MG"
 * &mdash;Referred as "OM"
 * &mdash;Referred as "Kazi"
 * &mdash;Referred as "LD" or "LD760"
 * &mdash;Referred as "Makao"